| [Index] |
| Charles MADDEN (1772 - ) |
| Major in the army |
| Children | Self + Spouses | Parents | Grandparents | Greatgrandparents |
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Benjamin MADDEN (1806 - 1807) Henry St.John MADDEN (1810 - 1873) |
Charles MADDEN (1772 - ) + Jane (MADDEN) Ida Ellena Ormond BUTLER |
male MADDEN ( - 1808) | ||
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Pic 1. Charls Madden was Ensign 30 Nov 1792 in Ireland. Lieut. 31 Oct 1793 Pic 2. Charles Madden was captain 29 Apr 1795 to retired half pay 1798 Pic 3. 2nd Batallion of 44th (East Essex) Regiment of Foot |
| b. abt 1772 |
| +. (1) Jane (MADDEN) |
| m. (2) Ida Ellena Ormond BUTLER |
| Parents: |
| male MADDEN ( - 1808) |
| Siblings (2): |
| John MADDEN ( - 1792) |
| Robert MADDEN ( - 1807) |
| Children (2): |
| Benjamin MADDEN (1806 - 1807) |
| Henry St.John MADDEN (1810 - 1873) |
| Events in Charles MADDEN (1772 - )'s life | |||||
| Date | Age | Event | Place | Notes | Src |
| abt 1772 | Charles MADDEN was born | ||||
| 30 Nov 1792 | 20 | Ensign | Ireland | To be Ensign | |
| 20 Aug 1803 | 31 | from half pay of 90th to Captain of 44th in charge of company | |||
| 01 Jan 1805 | 33 | Gazetted Captain 44th regiment of foot | |||
| bef 09 Sep 1806 | 34 | Birth of son Benjamin MADDEN | Matla | ||
| 16 Jun 1807 | 35 | Death of son Benjamin MADDEN | Malta | ||
| bef 1808 | 36 | Death of father male MADDEN | |||
| 26 May 1808 | 36 | Retirement | |||
| abt 1810 | 38 | Birth of son Henry St.John MADDEN | Dublin, Ireland | ||
| 13 Mar 1873 | 101 | Death of son Henry St.John MADDEN (aged 63) | Port Macquarie, New South Wales, Australia | Certificate | |
| Personal Notes: |
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The Times 14 July 1796 "Major Charles MADDEN, on half-pay of the Independents appointed Lieutenant-Colonet in the Army by Brevet."
Letter to His Royal Highness Frederick Dule of York, Commander in Chief &c. &c. &c. The memorial of Brevet Major Charles Madden, captain in His majesty's 44th Regiment of Foot. Humbly Herewith That your Memorialist obtained six months' leave of absence from the Commander of the Forces in the Island of Malta commencing on the 10th day of January last in consequence of your Memorialist's private affairs in Ireland requiring his immediate personal attendance from the deranged state his absence had involved them in. That your Memorialist did not arrive in England until the 29th of March in consequence of contrary winds and other casualties attending the passage which unfortunately prolonged his absence from his domestic interests that involved them still farther in difficulty's threatening a total stop to the usual support of a wife and family. Your Memorialist is therefore compelled to request your Royal Highness will obtain form him His Majesty's permission to retire form the Service and to dispose of his Company at the regulated price which your Memorialist purchased on the 24th day of September 1794. Which is Submitted, Charles Madden Captain 44th Regt & Major Kilkenny 26 May 1808 (On the back of the letter appeared the following; The memorial of brevet Major Charles Madden, Captain in His Majesty's 44th Regiment of Foot C.T. State if Service S.S. Ensign in 12 th regiment of foot 30 Nov 1792 in Ireland Lieut, 31 Oct 1793 Capt 119 th regiment of foot 24 Sept 1794 Capt 90 th regiment of foot 29 Apr 1795 Retired half pay 1798 Capt 44th regiment of foot 9 Jul 1803 Brevet Major 44th 1 Jan 1805 C.T. He can only sell what he purchased There is another complicated letter (Kilkenny, 15 jun 1808) begging to be allowed to also sell the Ensigncy that had belong to his brother John Madden who had died at about the time he had resigned it. He seeks an exception to rules due to 'family circumstances'. He wants to sell all three comissions. He says he bought it and this shows in his late father's accounts. He is given permission to do so. A third letter (Kilkenny 5 Oct 1808) instructing his Army Agent (Bownas) to sell his Captaincy to Lieut Davies. The Times (London) on 17 Jul 1796 has these words "Major Charles MADDEN, on half-pay of the Independents ... appointed Lieutenant-Colonel in the Army by Brevet." It may be him. lived at Kilkenny For the rest this fellow remains a mystery. Maybe: Hilton Parks Moneghan Below is the results of a search commissioned on Guernsey in 2010 An attempt to Charles Madden’s whereabouts from 1803 onwards having failed to find any trace of his son Henry St. John Madden in Guernsey Essex Regiment: Officers in 1803 when the 2nd Battalion was commissioned [taken from the Essex Family History Website] Surname First Name Rank Nicholl Thomas Lt Colonel Danser Thomas Major Powlett Henry Major Annesly Marcus John Captain Carter J Chilton L Captain Cruice John Captain Debbieg Henry Captain Johnson John A Captain McAuly Archibald Captain Madden Charles Captain Mullins Thomas Captain Murphy Thomas Captain Nixon Henry Captain Andrews Alexander Lt Ballard Thomas Lt Davis William Lt Dudie T A Lt Kennedy James Clegg Lt Langley William Lt Newport Arthur Lt Ponsonby James Lt O'Reilly Thomas Lt Wynne John Lt Blakeney John Ensign Craig William Alexander Ensign Davis Roland Ensign Eustace James Hardy Ensign Friend Albert Ensign Goldrisk John Ensign Hill Geroge Clarges Ensign Rea George Ensign Sanders ? Ensign Meekisson Colin Adjutant Jones Henry Quartermaster Miller Robert Surgeon Vassall William Asst Surgeon Consulting the Army Lists here, one for 1808 shows Charles Madden as a Major in the 2nd Battalion of the 44th [East Essex] Regiment of Foot, a rank he had held since 1 January 1805. But although in 1809 the Regiment was apparently stationed at the northerly Channel Island of Alderney, the 1809 Army List shows Charles Madden as a Cornet with the 4th [Queen’s Own] Regiment of Dragoons and a year later in 1810 he is recorded as a Lieutenant with this regiment. Unless of course this is another Charles Madden entirely! A site entitled British Cavalry Regimental Depots 1804 – 1812 presented in the form of a table put together by Steve Brown who extracted the information from Army Lists and the London Gazette, shows the known locations of British army regimental depots in the period 1804 to 1812. He makes the point that ‘Depot’ in this instance refers to a regimental post for the marshalling of officers on leave or reporting for duty, stores, correspondence and suchlike, rather than a ‘headquarters’ or barracks per se. And that many of the depots listed existed whilst one or all battalions of the regiment in question were on overseas duty (Foreign Service). We see that the Depot for the 4th (or the Queen's Own) Regiment of Dragoons was in Kent through 1809 – 1812, either at Shoreham or Canterbury. http://www.napoleon-series.org/military/organization/Britain/Cavalry/c_cavalrydepots.html A soldier named Thomas Beardsmore enlisted in the 4th [Queen’s Own] Regiment of Dragoons and an account of his regiment’s 5 year campaign in Spain is given in Kevin Asplin’s excellent British Medals website: http://www.britishmedals.us/kevin/profiles/beardsmore.html Incidentally the Le Marchant mentioned as leading the Heavy Brigade of Cavalry of which the 4th Dragoons became a part, was a Guernseyman, Major General John Gaspard Le Marchant, one of the finest British Cavalry Generals of his generation. On July 22nd 1812 the 4th Dragoons fought at Salamanca where, as part of Le Marchant's brigade, it helped smash several French battalions and where Le Marchant himself was killed. Now it may be that Charles Madden had connections himself with Guernsey through his military career but what I have presented above does not appear to bear this out. We cannot rule out the fact that his son Henry might have been born here on the island. Charles Madden’s wife Ida may have been here c. 1810. Maybe he had retired from any active service and there were two different men named Charles Madden but it seems quite a coincidence. However none of our records shows a baptism for the period 1808 – 1812 and I have consulted Garrison, Roman Catholic and Anglican Church parish records for the whole island and for the main Anglican Church in the island of Alderney too. With regard to Henry St. John Madden’s young adult life I looked in the earliest directory that we hold which is dated 1826 [but would have been prepared the previous year] where the tradesman were listed but I found no entry for him as a baker, nor any entry for him at all. I also searched through the second half of the year of 1826 of the local newspaper Gazette de Guernesey and looked through the whole of the following year 1827 for any possible mention of a court case re a possible crime committed by Henry St. John Madden but found absolutely nothing reported I am afraid. I actually started my research on your behalf with the search through our records but when this proved fruitless I read the information on your website and next turned my attention to trying to find out more about his father Charles’s possible whereabouts during this period through trying to trace his military career. If I am right however and it is the same Charles Madden all through then maybe this goes some way towards an explanation as to why no trace of Henry St. John Madden has been found in our records. However there’s no smoke without fire as they say and surely there has to have been some sort of link with the island. What you have here is the result of two hour’s research however. |