John Thomas LINDSAY (1839

John Thomas LINDSAY (1839 - 1926)

Children	Self + Spouses	Parents	Grandparents	Greatgrandparents
Caroline Phoebe LINDSAY (1879 - ) William Benjamin LINDSAY (1880 - ) Frederick Samuel LINDSAY (1882 - 1917) Elfreda Grace LINDSAY (1884 - ) Ada Marion LINDSAY (1886 - ) John Alexander LINDSAY (1888 - ) Phoebe Helen LINDSAY (1890 - ) Frances Emily LINDSAY (1892 - ) Annie Catherine Margaret Olive LINDSAY (1897 - )	John Thomas LINDSAY (1839 - 1926) + Phoebe Sophia SCHOFIELD (1858 - 1947)	John Thomas LINDSAY



		Betsey REUBEN ( - 1844)

b. 10 Apr 1839 at Oakham, Rutlandshire, England

m. 27 Feb 1878 Phoebe Sophia SCHOFIELD (1858 - 1947) at Roma, Queensland, Australia

d. 20 Feb 1926 at Yuleba, Queensland, Australia aged 86

Near Relatives of John Thomas LINDSAY (1839 - 1926)
Relationship	Person	Born	Birth Place	Died	Death Place	Age
Father in Law	Robert SCHOFIELD	02 Aug 1807	Manchester, Lancashire, England	09 May 1862	Goondiwindi, Queensland, Australia	54
Mother in Law	Caroline HAINES	abt 1818	Horsley, Gloucestershire, England	28 Jun 1907	Roma, Queensland, Australia	89

Father	John Thomas LINDSAY
Mother	Betsey REUBEN			abt 1844

Self	John Thomas LINDSAY	10 Apr 1839	Oakham, Rutlandshire, England	20 Feb 1926	Yuleba, Queensland, Australia	86

Wife	Phoebe Sophia SCHOFIELD	1858		1947		89

Daughter	Caroline Phoebe LINDSAY	1879	Queensland, Australia
Son	William Benjamin LINDSAY	18 Jul 1880	Queensland, Australia
Son	Frederick Samuel LINDSAY	1882	Queensland, Australia	11 Mar 1917	France	35
Daughter	Elfreda Grace LINDSAY	1884	Queensland, Australia
Daughter	Ada Marion LINDSAY	1886	Queensland, Australia
Son	John Alexander LINDSAY	1888	Queensland, Australia
Daughter	Phoebe Helen LINDSAY	1890	Queensland, Australia
Daughter	Frances Emily LINDSAY	1892	Queensland, Australia
Daughter	Annie Catherine Margaret Olive LINDSAY	1897	Queensland, Australia

Daughter in Law	Mary Josephine STACK

Grandson	William Clyde LINDSAY	1911	Queensland, Australia
Grandson	Kevon James LINDSAY	1912	Queensland, Australia
Granddaughter	Laura Kathleen LINDSAY	1915	Queensland, Australia
Granddaughter	Fredesia Mary (Tiny) LINDSAY	1916	Queensland, Australia

Niece	Elizabeth Jane SCHOFIELD	1874	Queensland, Australia
Nephew	Edward Thomas SCHOFIELD	1875	Queensland, Australia
Niece	Caroline Pauline SCHOFIELD	1877	Queensland, Australia
Niece	Phoebe SCHOFIELD	1879	Queensland, Australia
Nephew	John Paterson SCHOFIELD	1881	Queensland, Australia
Nephew	Richard Bannister SCHOFIELD	1882	Queensland, Australia	1883	Queensland, Australia	1
Niece	Martha Ellen SCHOFIELD	1884	Queensland, Australia
Nephew	Douglas SCHOFIELD	1887	Queensland, Australia
Niece	Euphemia Elsie SCHOFIELD	1889	Queensland, Australia
Nephew	James Eugene SCHOFIELD	1892	Queensland, Australia
Niece	Charlotte DUNSTAN	1867
Nephew	David DUNSTAN	1869
Nephew	Robert DUNSTAN	1871
Nephew	John DUNSTAN	1874
Nephew	Richard DUNSTAN	1875
Niece	Mary DUNSTAN	1877		1891		14
Niece	Elizabeth DUNSTAN	1879		1972		93
Niece	Harriet DUNSTAN	1881
Niece	Florence DUNSTAN	1883
Nephew	Edwin DUNSTAN	1885
Niece	Mary DUNSTAN	1888
Nephew	Henry James ALEXANDER	25 Feb 1876	St George, Queensland, Australia
Niece	Susannah Jane ALEXANDER	1878	St George, Queensland, Australia	1946	Richmond, Queensland, Australia	68
Nephew	Edward William ALEXANDER	23 Jul 1880	St George, Queensland, Australia	1936	Queensland, Australia	56
Nephew	Robert Alfred ALEXANDER	1885	St George, Queensland, Australia
Niece	Phoebe Ellen ALEXANDER	18 Jul 1888	St George, Queensland, Australia
Nephew	Allan ALEXANDER	1890	Queensland, Australia
Niece	Caroline Pauline ALEXANDER	1891	Queensland, Australia
Niece	Jane ALEXANDER	1894	Queensland, Australia
Niece	Martha MARSH	1865	Queensland, Australia	1951		86
Niece	Mary Elizabeth MARSH	1867	Queensland, Australia	1869		2
Nephew	John William MARSH	1869	Queensland, Australia	1955		86
Nephew	Samuel MARSH	1872	Queensland, Australia
Niece	Mary Maud MARSH	1875	Queensland, Australia	1875	Queensland, Australia	0
Nephew	Isaac Gibbs MARSH	1877	Queensland, Australia
Niece	Florence Emma MARSH	1880	Queensland, Australia
Niece	Clara Ada MARSH	1882	Queensland, Australia
Niece	Sarah Jane HONESS	1857	Liverpool Plains, New South Wales, Australia	1924	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	67
Nephew	William H HONESS	1860	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia
Niece	Caroline A HONESS	1862	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia
Nephew	John Henry HONESS	1864	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	1942	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	78
Niece	Hannah J HONESS	1869	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia
Nephew	Thomas James HONESS	1871	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	1957	Kurri Kurri, New South Wales, Australia	86
Nephew	George William HONESS	1873	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia
Nephew	Alfred Charles HONESS	1875	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	1941	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	66
Nephew	Charles William HONESS	1878	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	1963	Barraba, New South Wales, Australia	85
Nephew	Samuel R HONESS	1881	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	1926	Barraba, New South Wales, Australia	45
Niece	Jane C LAMEY	1859	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	1911	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	52
Nephew	John William LAMEY	1862	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	1950	Liverpool, New South Wales, Australia	88
Niece	Harriet M A LAMEY	1864	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	1867	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	3
Nephew	Thomas A LAMEY	1866	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	1867	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	1
Nephew	Frederick LAMEY	1868	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	1947	Sydney, New South Wales, Australia	79
Nephew	Robert C LAMEY	1870	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	1871	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	1
Nephew	Alfred Robert LAMEY	1872	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	1942	Randwick, New South Wales, Australia	70
Niece	Laura LAMEY	29 Jul 1875	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	07 Nov 1957	Marrickville, Sydney, Australia	82
Nephew	David Allen LAMEY	1878	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	1963	Auburn, New South Wales, Australia	85
Niece	Elizabeth LAMEY	1881	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	1882	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	1
Niece	Hannah A LAMEY	1881	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	1902	Gunnedah, New South Wales, Australia	21
Niece	Caroline BYRNES	11 Feb 1861	Gubberamundi Station, Queensland, Australia	25 Nov 1889	Thargomindah, Queensland, Australia	28
Niece	Mary Anne BYRNES	29 Jun 1862	Gubberamundi Station, Queensland, Australia	23 Jan 1954	Roma, Queensland, Australia	91
Niece	Margaret Ellen BYRNES	15 Apr 1864	Roma, Queensland, Australia	08 Aug 1959	Roma, Queensland, Australia	95
Nephew	William BYRNES	13 Sep 1866	Roma, Queensland, Australia	15 Jan 1948	Brisbane, Queensland, Australia	81
Nephew	John Thomas BYRNES	18 Jun 1875	Roma, Queensland, Australia	17 Mar 1917	Roma, Queensland, Australia	41
Nephew	Robert Edward BYRNES	18 Jun 1875	Roma, Queensland, Australia	25 Oct 1958	Roma, Queensland, Australia	83
Niece	Rose Adeline BYRNES	04 Apr 1879	Roma, Queensland, Australia	abt 1973	Lismore, New South Wales, Australia	94
Nephew	James Henry COX	11 Aug 1883	Roma, Queensland, Australia	06 Sep 1883	Roma, Queensland, Australia	0
Niece	Martha COX	14 Jan 1885	Roma, Queensland, Australia	21 May 1975	Roma, Queensland, Australia	90
Nephew	Arthur Vernon COX	27 Jan 1887	Roma, Queensland, Australia	16 Oct 1957	Bowen, Queensland, Australia	70
Niece	Isabella Caroline MARSH	1897	Roma, Queensland, Australia	abt 1970		73
Niece	Violet Clara MARSH	1901	Roma, Queensland, Australia	abt 1970		69
Niece	Grace Olive MARSH	1905	Roma, Queensland, Australia	abt 1975		70

Brother in Law	Edward SCHOFIELD	10 Feb 1848	Gunnedah, New South Wales, Australia	29 Oct 1925	Blair Athol, Queensland, Australia	77
Sister in Law	Sarah SCHOFIELD	11 Jan 1850	New South Wales, Australia	20 Feb 1937	Roma, Queensland, Australia	87
Brother in Law	Robert SCHOFIELD	1852	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	1933	Dalby, Queensland, Australia	81
Sister in Law	Sarah Jane SCHOFIELD	1854	New South Wales, Australia	1894	Goondiwindi, Queensland, Australia	40
Brother in Law	Isaac MARSH	28 Aug 1835	West Maitland, New South Wales, Australia	19 Mar 1846	Morpeth, New South Wales, Australia	10
Brother in Law	William MARSH	16 Jul 1837	New South Wales, Australia	1903	Mitchell, Queensland, Australia	66
Sister in Law	Mary Ann MARSH	06 Feb 1839	New South Wales, Australia	10 Nov 1917	Barraba, New South Wales, Australia	78
Sister in Law	Elizabeth MARSH	14 Apr 1841	New South Wales, Australia	18 Dec 1901	Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia	60
Sister in Law	Hannah MARSH	11 Mar 1843	West Maitland, New South Wales, Australia	19 Feb 1936	Roma, Queensland, Australia	92
Brother in Law	Thomas MARSH	27 Feb 1845	Maitland, New South Wales, Australia	06 Jul 1928	Roma, Queensland, Australia	83

Events in John Thomas LINDSAY (1839 - 1926)'s life
Date	Age	Event	Place	Notes	Src
10 Apr 1839		John Thomas LINDSAY was born	Oakham, Rutlandshire, England	Note 1	18
abt 1844	5	Death of mother Betsey REUBEN
27 Feb 1878	38	Married Phoebe Sophia SCHOFIELD (aged 20)	Roma, Queensland, Australia		18
1879	40	Birth of daughter Caroline Phoebe LINDSAY	Queensland, Australia	1879/C12
18 Jul 1880	41	Birth of son William Benjamin LINDSAY	Queensland, Australia		18
1882	43	Birth of son Frederick Samuel LINDSAY	Queensland, Australia	1882/C58	18
1884	45	Birth of daughter Elfreda Grace LINDSAY	Queensland, Australia	1884/C5018	18
1886	47	Birth of daughter Ada Marion LINDSAY	Queensland, Australia	1886/C2483	18
1888	49	Birth of son John Alexander LINDSAY	Queensland, Australia	1888/C6991	18
1890	51	Birth of daughter Phoebe Helen LINDSAY	Queensland, Australia	1890/C8517	18
1892	53	Birth of daughter Frances Emily LINDSAY	Queensland, Australia	1892/C8251	18
1897	58	Birth of daughter Annie Catherine Margaret Olive LINDSAY	Queensland, Australia	1897/C7401	18
11 Mar 1917	77	Death of son Frederick Samuel LINDSAY (aged 35)	France		18
20 Feb 1926	86	John Thomas LINDSAY died	Yuleba, Queensland, Australia	1929/C755	18

Note 1: FreeBMD Kidderminster Jun 1839 18 381

Personal Notes:

JOHN THOMAS LINDSAY and WILLIAM AND THOMAS MARSH
John Thomas Lindsay who was born in Oakham, Rutlandshire, United Kingdom, on 10 April, 1839 first appears in the Queensland Electoral Roll in the electorate of Surat/Balonne in 1879, he also appears on the Roll in 1880, 1881, 1882, and 1883. His parents were John Thomas Lindsay, a builder, and Betsy Reuben. His mother died when he was five so he and his father and father brothers went into in the workhouse in Manchester.************** His residence (given as Perwell Station on the Maranoa River between Mitchell & St. George) was originally owned by William and Thomas Marsh, half brothers of his wife. They had previously owned Bidicarraba in the Goondiwindi area but in 1866 took up lots 4 & 5 of Drysdale Ponds which they named Perwell after William’s father-in-law’s property in Gloucestershire England. William had married Mary Alcock at Moogoon Station on 28 July, 1864 and their first child Martha was born at Bidicarraba on 23 June 1866. It is almost certain that William’s mother, Caroline Schofield, would have acted as midwife at the birth as there were neither doctors nor hospitals within hundreds of miles.

The Marsh Brothers began their hazardous journey to Perwell travelling via bullock dray.

In “Links with the Past” by Donald Gunn, 1937, we read this graphic description of their journey handed down by descendents of the Marsh family.

“They travelled by bullock dray to Perwell, on the Maranoa, and went by Surat. They were guided by a blackfellow called Lazy Jimmie, and as this was the first dray through these parts, it was a serious undertaking with the assistance of only aborigines, The track had to be cut through patches of thick scrub, and trees marked so that the same route could be used by the stock which were to follow. The party consisted of the two brothers William and Tom. William drove the dray with his wife and baby. A good supply of rations, cooking utensils, and tools had to be taken.
No doubt Mrs. Mary Marsh must have had an anxious and uncomfortable time, sitting on top of a loaded bullock dray.
Thomas Marsh followed with the stock, sheep, horses and cattle and must have had all his time occupied. Neither William nor Thomas would have got through were it not for the assistance of the blacks.
The Marshes understood the blacks and never had any trouble with them. Later the gins (female aborigines) helped with the housework and the men looked after the stock.
When the sheep were shorn, the wool was loaded onto two wheel bullock drays and started for Ipswich, then called Limestone. It went by the track they had cut to Surat, and crossed the range near Toowoomba, using the Tollbar road. The drays, after delivering their loads would load up for the return journey with supplies sufficient for twelve months and one had to be very careful to order all that was required as if any item was omitted, it would have to be done without until the next year.”

Soon after the Marsh brothers settled at Perwell they were joined by their mother Mrs. Caroline Schofield whose second husband Robert Schofield had died of a heart attack in 1862 at Callandoon Station at Goondiwindi where he was employed as a shepherd. She was accompanied by her two sons and three daughters including the youngest, Phoebe.

Caroline & Phoebe were with the Marsh Brothers on Perwell Station when Harry Redford and the Marsden brothers passed through on their drive to Adelaide. (Phoebe’s grandson Digger Lindsay, who lived with her in Yuleba town for his schooling years, remembers her often reminiscing about this incident.)
On 16 January 1875 Harry Redford, the notorious bushranger Captain Starlight, was charged at St. George with releasing William Marsh’s horse from the pound there, selling it and keeping the proceeds. William Marsh had bought the same horse from Redford two years before, from a mob that he was taking to be sold.
When the horse strayed from its new owner it was impounded. Redford released it, and sold it again, saying it had only the Colless brand on it and he was entitled to act as he did: he was committed to trial at Roma at the next sittings.
This was just a few years after he had been tried in Roma on a charge of stealing cattle from Bowen Downs, and taking them down the Strzelecki Track to Adelaide: in that instance the jury had found him not guilty”

William Marsh bought Hillsborough on the opposite side of the Maranoa River in 1870. This grazing property has been in continuous occupation by his descendants ever since. He stocked the property with sheep and cattle but sheep were much more intensive, requiring shepherds, protection from dingoes, and having to be shorn by hand. Old station records show7,000 sheep at this time. The sheep were sold in 1882 and the money used to fence the property for cattle. More horses were needed for cattle work and the best stock horses were bought The men worked hard but it was difficult coming to terms with droughts, bushfire, snakes & the ubiquitous flies and, after rain or floods, those pesky & irritating sandflies.

Hillsborough had the best house in the area, it was quaintly picturesque and surpassed any other station homestead in the west of Queensland. at that time, being “a credit to the carpenter who built it. The frame is very strong and the walls are made of horizontal pine saplings with bark on, nicely adzed at each end, and fitted into grooved posts.” The original roof was of bark held down by log ties but by the year 1937 it was covered with iron.

The families had much fun visiting the properties on opposite banks of the Maranoa, using a row boat to get across the river.

Thomas Marsh took up an adjoining block and became owner of the Surprise holding.and his descendants still held portion of this old leasehold until about 2008 when Don Kellock was running a B & B on part of that property known as Begonia Station. Don had a very interesting museum stocked with much Marsh family memorabilia. This was accidently sold off with the sale of the Surprise property and is now scattered around the district.

John Thomas Lindsay married Phoebe Sophia Schofield on 27 February 1878 at Roma. They lived on Perwell, then Rookwood for some years. Many of their children were born at Nogilla Station, St. George.
From there they purchased Muggleton, near Yuleba where he ran a grazing property for some years. From 1900 – 1903 there was a dreadful drought and most properties lost most of their cattle. Around about the turn of the century in Western Queensland, cattle ticks made their appearance, and the ground began to be covered with prickly pear which was to become a great scourge until it was eliminated by the cactoblastis insect around about 1930.

He then moved to Yuleba town where he lived until his death in 1926. His grandson, Jim Lindsay who lived across the road from him in Yuleba, remembers walking out the door of his home one day on his way to school & being greeted by John Lindsay¨ who commented “ Aren’t you going to say goodbye to me? You may never see me again”. And that is what happened. His Obituary in the Western Star stated:

DEATH 1926
LINDSAY - On the 26th February, at the General Hospital, Roma, John Lindsay of Yeulba, in his 87th year.

The death occurred at the Roma Hospital on Saturday morning last of John Thomas Lindsay, a well-known
resident who came to this district half a century ago. Born in Scotland (incorrect) in 1839 , Mr. Lindsay came to Australia as a boy, and spent his first few years in Australia in Toowoomba and on the Downs. From thence he went to the Dawson country, and then to the Maranoa, arriving in this district about 50 years ago.
Despite his advanced age, he was still working and in good health up to a few days prior to his death, when a stroke made it necessary to remove him to the hospital. He leaves a widow and two sons, William and John, and five daughters, Mrs. Brown (Toowoomba), Mrs. S. Butler, Mrs Richard Butler, and Mrs. E.N.Simpson (Surat) and Mrs.N.E Devine (Goondiwindi district). Another son, Fred, was killed in the Great War.

This work in progress was written by Barbara Lindsay Baker

Source References:

18. Type: E-mail Message, Abbr: e-mails general pool, Title: e-mails general pool

- Reference = Trevor Price 15 Sep 2013 & Barbara Baker 25 Aug 2014 (Name, Notes)

- Notes: I notice that you do not have information on the birth of my gr. grandmother Phoebe Schofield so I am attaching this story that I have written.

Regarding John Thomas Lindsay, Phoebe's husband, I have sent you a story that is a work in progress that I am writing on him. He was born in Manchester around 1839, although there is some doubt about the year. He was certainly much older than 76 years that you have him as. He came to the Downs as a boy. My grandfather Bill Lindsay had a funeral card of William Lindsay from (I think from memory) Toowoomba and I was always puzzled by this. However, he turned out to be John T's brother.

It took me a long time to come to terms with the fact that his mother died when he was young and he and his father & siblings were living in the workhouse in Manchester for some years prior to emigrating to Aust. A distant relative that I contacted had done this research but the dates did not add up, nothing was proven. However, I believe that he added "Thomas" to his name after his arrival in Oz. and I believe now that this is the only John Lindsay who could be ours. Much research has been done on this and I think this is the only possible explanation.

I note also that you give Caroline's parents as George and Ann. Whilst I believe that this is possible (and I know that Trevor Price favours this theory) we have no way of proving this. I don't believe that her parents were Caroline Paulina & Thomas as she states. I think she may not have known her parents, or at least their names. It is also a great puzzle to me that she was born at Horsley in Gloucestershire (a very pretty village, I have been there) yet worked and lived in Hursley which is some 300 miles from Horsley.Marjorie Byrnes engaged a researcher many years ago but she could not find out anything at all about Caroline. However, there is so much information around now that it may be possible to discover the truth if anyone was interested in following it up. Personally, I think it would be a wild goose chase as there is nothing to go on, Caroline did not tell the truth!

- Reference = Trevor Price 15 Sep 2013 (Death)

- Reference = Trevor Price 15 Sep 2013 (Marriage)

- Reference = Trevor Price 15 Sep 2013 & Barbara Baker 24 Aug 2014 (Birth)

- Notes: I have proof that he was 87 years of age at death.

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